it's emblematic of a larger problem, which is, it's very late to pivot and very late to change. if you look at chris van holland and other democrats admitting there are going to be seats they are going to have to lose and they'll have to cut members off, that they'll basically have to let the guys fry, that is an indication no matter what the talking points are, there is a deeper understanding that this climate is very, very bad for the incumbent party. >> chris: juan? >> well, i think i want to pick up on what john mccain said to you earlier, chris, which is it's time for republicans to put up or shut up. where are the republican ideas? you had a group of republicans, young republicans in the house put out a book this week, no new ideas, saying here is what we would do that is different. when you hear from president obama as we did yesterday in his radio/internet address he says look, we have had eight months of growth in terms of job creation.